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Volume 2 .......... Issue 5 ........... May 16, 2001

     
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Basch" <baschj@co.oakland.mi.us>
To: <rdhawk@ccountry.net>
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 7:49 AM
Subject: Rogue Forum Feedback


> subject_topic=phone number
> message text=I noticed that a phone number on your home page does not
> include an area code.  Inasmuch as your site reaches a global audience, an
> area code is a must.
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From: <Tripltplus@aol.com>
To: <editor@rogueforum.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 8:13 AM
Subject: Henson & Holland recall

> In my previous email I was critical of SC City supporters not checkingtheir
> facts - NIL & ASS (middle initials not verified) - I however, made aserious
> error.  It should have read:  The "for recall" vote was over 50% of the
> "against" vote, 1+ of every 3 voters wanted Henson & Holland, out!!  ET

From: <Tripltplus@aol.com>
To: <editor@rogueforum.com>
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 3:55 AM
Subject: David Rayburn's letter

> He sure hit the nail on the head!!  We noticed that the "only" people who
> supported the city council members in the recent recall - in our local
> newspaper - were land developers and/or wannabe friends of the
> developers...Surprise, Surprise!!  Mert & Erlene Thomson

subject_topic=Town Public Meetings !!
December 13, 2001, message text=
Since the voters and residents of Shady Cove cannot express themselves
at open city council meetings without being talked down by mayor Anderson
giving no answers or response to their questions put forth by residents, it
is strongly suggested that the residents of Shady Cove demand that mayor
Thomas Anderson and the city council begin having Town Hall meetings at
least once a month to hear any complaints residents may have concerning
the decisions and actions by our city government and others at our city hall
government.
It is further suggested that such town meetings be held outside of city
hall, and not before city council, or at their open public meetings. It is
further suggested that the city council meetings should have news media
coverage and video coverage to be made public and published in our local
newspapers. Should there be town hall meetings outside of city hall for
all to come or invited to attend, should also be video taped and recorded by
unbiased members of the news media.
In order that Shady Cove residents and tax payers may have documented
discussions and actions by all parties attending these meetings, and what
discussions are taking place, this may help to prevent Shady Cove's mayor
and city council members to start acting like a mayor and members of a
city council if the cameras and microphone are staring them in the face. It is
of interest to know that our neighboring city of Eagle Point's elected mayor
has two town hall meetings a year for his residents and tax payers.

This mayor also has a youth committee made up of grammar school children
up to the high school level who hold their own committee and council
meetings with the mayor and his city council members to listen and hear
what the youth in his city have to say about anything that may be on their mind
that concerns Eagle Point residents as well as the youth living in Eagle
Point. This may be considered a first for the mayor of Eagle Point who is
acting like he has a sincere interest in everything that goes on in his
city and the youth of his city. Where are you Shady Cove mayor Thomas Anderson ?

Why cant Shady Cove have a government and officials like Eagle Point has?

To find this out, ask our mayor Thomas Anderson. Shady Cove city hall does
have an e-mail and fax address where anyone may reach them for any reason
and at any time. Thank you my friends.~ ~Shirley Tuttle
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:01 PM

subject_topic=Raft Tax
message text=I wonder if anyone out there realizes that all of the raft
companies have been paying the city two dollars per raft rental for, well to
long. Where does it go?
 On November 15 the revenue raisers will be discussing their "revised"
version of the raft tax which states that even if family members use the
raft, two dollars is due. It get's worse- even if the owner of the company
rafts down the rogue- he must pay. This does not sound right. I don't live
in California for a reason, one of them being sales tax.
S.T.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:01 PM

subject_topic=Raft Tax
message text=I wonder if anyone out there realizes that all of the raft
companies have been paying the city two dollars per raft rental for, well to
long. Where does it go?
 On November 15 the revenue raisers will be discussing their "revised"
version of the raft tax which states that even if family members use the
raft, two dollars is due. It get's worse- even if the owner of the company
rafts down the rogue- he must pay. This does not sound right. I don't live
in California for a reason, one of them being sales tax.
S.T.
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From: Ginny Specht To: editor@rogueforum.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 10:08

I cannot tell you how much I enjoyed reading ALL of the articles on your forum, so i won't.......... MY best to all the good people in Shady cove.  regards, Patriot GinFrom:

About the proposed water project by the mayor and a few others; Winston Churchill maybe parphrased in stating:

Never would so many have paid so much to get water to so few. Fred Richardson, Shady Cove, Oregon

An interesting snippet: Subject: Saving Sucker fish kills eagles and water fowl

"From the "Bolshoi Bureaucracy" Files, it's too late for Oregon's
Klamath Basin farmers to get crops underway, after the government cut
off their annual water supply, claiming sucker fish habitat might
suffer. However, consistent with the "law of unintended consequences,"
it now appears that California's Tulelake Wildlife Refuge will suffer
from the irrigation shutoff, and biologists for the area now estimate
that up to a thousand American Bald Eagles and 25,000 waterfowl will
perish due to disease and starvation."

This is environmentalism at its best?  Or simply a ham-handed way of
bankrupting farmers so NGOs can buy up the land for the government at a
dime on the dollar?   No doubt, since the Klamath eagle population has
recovered nicely over the past decade, and will be able to do it again
once the farmers are gone and the water is turned back on.  And 25k waterfowl
are hardly any at all, given the hundreds of thousands that use the Oregon
flyway.  Those 1400 farmers and their land is what it is all about.
Klamath Falls is on its way to being a ghost town.
Bill William J. Bonville" <
bonville@cdsnet.net>

The $30.00 to $40.00 per month for the water is just the monthly fee, the letter did not say how much would be charged for the water.

Raymond A. Jensen Shady Cove

Dear Editors,
The attached letter from Greg Walden looks newsworthy to me. Shows he is really standing up for us constituents.  What do you think? George
----- Original Message -----
From: <greg.walden@mail.house.gov>
To: <gfuller@ccountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:45 PM
Subject: Agriculture/Resources Update
August 7, 2001
Mr. & Mrs. George T. Fuller
PO Box 8
Trail, Oregon 97541-0008

Dear Hanni and George:
As Congress wraps up its summer legislative session, I wanted to update you on some of the issues we've been working on and what they'll mean for Oregonians. Of all the issues facing Oregonians who make their living off the land, none is more pressing than the plight of the more than 1,400 farming and
ranching families in the Klamath Basin whose livelihood has been destroyed by the cut-off of irrigation water.  In the months since the water cut-off, I've done everything in my power to help, including securing disaster relief from the federal government, studying ways to avoid a similar crisis in the future, and sponsoring legislation to amend the Endangered Species Act (ESA). Congress approved $20 million in disaster relief payments for farmers and ranchers in the Klamath Basin.  While this is a tenth of what is needed, it will help some families from going broke.  We've also gotten assurances that every dime of the money will go directly to those in need and none will be siphoned off by the bureaucracy.  In mid-July, when it became clear that there was more water in the lake than anticipated, I spent the weekend urging Interior Department officials to release water for the farmers.  Secretary of the Interior Gale Norton made the call to release up to 75,000 acre-feet of water from Upper Klamath Lake for farmers and ranchers.  While this decision will provide only a fraction of the water needed by farmers, it will help save perennials and cover crops, water thirsty cattle, and hopefully recharge domestic wells that have gone bone dry.  I've personally discussed this issue with President Bush, Vice President Cheney and numerous Cabinet members to make sure they fully understand the dire circumstances in the Klamath Basin.  There's still a lot of work to be done, and I'll continue to do everything possible to craft long-term solutions to the water problems facing the Klamath Basin.
The disaster in the Klamath Basin has demonstrated to the nation how the Endangered Species Act can have devastating effects on a community. Congress needs to change the ESA to require the use of peer-reviewed science.  And we should allow states to design their own recovery plans for species that meet national goals, but aren't micro-managed by federal bureaucrats.
In other agriculture-related news, Congress recently approved a $5.5 billion relief package for the 2001 crop year to help farmers survive record low commodity prices and high-energy costs.  Many farmers in Oregon are facing financial ruin because the prices of their crops are at historic lows, yet they're paying high prices for the electricity and fuel they use to run irrigation pumps and operate tractors and combines.  The bill contains $4.6 billion in funding for crops covered under the 1996 farm bill, including wheat and barley.  It also earmarks $3.72 million for Oregon growers of potatoes, onions, pears, mint and other "specialty crops."  This assistance is vital to keep family farmers in business and preserve America's agricultural base.
On July 11th the House passed the Agriculture appropriations bill for next year, a $15.6 billion package to pay for the programs that are vital to America's farmers and ranchers.  We've also passed the Fiscal Year 2002 Interior appropriations bill, including $2.1 billion to implement a national wild land fire plan to protect rural communities from the devastating effects of wildfires that occur in forests where overstocked, unmanaged timber stands create a tinderbox effect. Meanwhile, I'm continuing to pressure the Administration to support fairer trade agreements for American farmers.  Right now the playing field is tilted terribly against us.  From foreign subsidies to tariffs and trade barriers, our producers can't compete with a deck stacked against us.  On several occasions I've taken the concerns of growers in Oregon directly to the attention of the U.S. Trade Representative, Ambassador Robert Zoellick, and to the President.  I've strongly relayed the need for a level playing field for U.S. producers.  Both the President and Ambassador Zoellick have said they understand the importance of a sound trade policy for agriculture and will work to ensure that American farmers and ranchers are no longer dealt a losing hand during international trade negotiations.
Another important issue to Oregonians who have ties to the land is the controversial Conservation and Reinvestment Act (CARA).  As you know, this federal land acquisition bill passed the House overwhelmingly in the last Congress, but was not signed into law.  My opposition to this measure last year was based on serious concerns about its lack of private property rights protection and my belief that the federal government shouldn't have a blank check to buy more land when it doesn't properly manage the land it already owns.  This year supporters of CARA are pushing for its passage once again.  On July 25th the House Resources Committee approved $900 million for federal land acquisition under CARA, and the bill may soon be debated in the full House.  I voted against passage of this bill in the committee for the same reasons I opposed it last year.
As I prepare to head home to Oregon for the month of August, I do so knowing that we've made huge strides in tax reform, patients' rights and in developing a comprehensive energy security policy for our country. We're repealing the death tax and giving real tax relief to working families.  Rebate checks are in the mail, withholding reductions are already in place, and the child credit will increase next year.  We'll also continue to pay down record amounts of debt and keep the budget balanced.  The President's ability to reach a balanced consensus on HMO reform means new protections for patients without driving health care costs out of sight.  And the energy plan we approved in the House means less reliance on foreign oil and new incentives for renewable energy sources and conservation.  In short, this year has seen a real change in Washington.  We're taking on difficult and sometimes controversial issues and finding common ground and balanced solutions.  I hope we'll accomplish even more when we return in September.
Please let me know how I can be of assistance.  You can access my web site at www.walden.house.gov to contact me by email.  It's an honor to represent you in Congress.
Best regards,
GREG WALDEN
Member of Congress

P.S. I encourage you to visit my web site at http://www.walden.house.gov to learn more about what we're doing in Congress.  You can also e-mail me any comments you may have on this or other issues and sign up for my weekly e-mail newsletter.

On last year's Voter Information Pamphlet, regarding the water issue, no opposing view statement was included. On most issues and on most of these phamplets throughout the country, at least there is the statement, "There are no opposing views" Why do we permit this here?? We should not let this happen again. The people need to know!! And again, what about  an attempt to exclude the mobile home owners from voting on this issue. Is this not an attempt to disenfranchise a large block of voters?? Alfred Schleunes Shady Cove

Thoughts on City of Shady Cove levy Misappropriation:

If the city of Shady Cove had followed the letter of the levy,"DEDICATED TO SALARY FOR TWO OFFICERS", all over time and benefits for these two officers would have come from other sources. By allocating to cover benefits, the city is able to make it appear that the levy only covers 1 and 1/4 officer. This even though total expenditure might well be equal. However, this manipulation can then be used to try a baseline next of $106,000 by manipulating the electorate. Because a multitude of the electorate and taxpayers are angry and resentful at the manipulation and because the city plays loose with the levy, it is likely that a strong effort will be made to not approve extension of the levy and certainly not an increase in funds for the city to use as they see fit.

This game playing will eventually turn more of the electorate away from a special levy for the police when the city cannot be trusted to use the money EXACTLY as the electorate clearly desired

The Mayor argues that he is totally correct in his application of these moneys. We think not and are ready to hire legal counsel and begin process to prevent another levy of this type from being used other than what was voted for by defeating any future police levy. We need to support our police but not by permitting money the taxpayers specifically approved for their salary to be manipulated.

Thank you, Les Weaver

~CONGRATULATIONS~~~~~~~ for providing the Rogue Valley with a FORUM!!!!!! Better than reading some of the miss-info we get!!!!!! Keep up the good work... God blessAmerica~Ginny Specht got@rvi.net

Thank you for this very professional web site for the Shady Cove area. We moved here 2 1/2 years ago. We live in a mobile homepark and continue to have concerns about the transportation plan that our City Council may come up with for this area.I'm delighted that Vic Corchero introducted us to your Home Page, plus and the other sites that you offer.I will be checking your web site often. Thank you, Shirley Tuttle

Your website looks great. I would recommend that your lead articles be a bit more explicit and definitive. Some people, such as myself, may need terms briefly defined. It appears there's going to be a good deal of opposition to the water project regarding financing. Much the of the opposition appears more based on fear than reality since that is no definitive projection of necessary financing. Ken Gordon

A very enjoyable web site with a local message Joe Johnson

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